Discussions/Submissions/Content translation across wiki's
Content translation across Wikipedias
- Title
- Content translation
- Original title: Language-mixing in English-to-Spanish translations on Wikipedia
- Proposed by
User:Góngora (Wikipedian since 2006, admin/bureaucrat, checkuser, and linguist/translator)
- Description
(to be updated)
This talk is community-oriented and the main goal is to let users share their experience regarding cross-wiki translation. We often see many errors there. The ultimate goal is to learn from each other and to get feedback from experienced wiki-translators. Their tips can help other (less experienced) users to improve the quality of many articles on Wikipedia. Translation is a key concept and it is often subject to debate and controversy depending on factors such as quality of the translation, topic, etc. It could be interesting to get some advice from Wikipedians. The fact that so many languages and communities will be represented there, makes it even more interesting because we can see if there are any significant differences across different languages/versions.
- Purpose
Translation is a very important tool and thousands of Wikipedians and Wikimedians translate articles on a daily basis. It would be interesting to ask experienced and non-experienced wiki-translators/editors about their task on Wikipedia, their attitude towards the English Wikipedia vs. other Wikipedias, and what choices do they make when they translate into their own language (Do they keep the foreign words? Are they loyal to the original texts? Do they adapt it to suit their own interests?)
- Targeted participants
This project is aimed at Wikipedia translators and editors, regardless of language or community. All editors and translators on Wikipedia are free - and more than welcome - to join the discussion!
- Preparatory readings or materials
Questionnaire(s), slides, and Translation tool on Wikipedia.
Questions and Comments 11
- Hi User:Góngora, please bear in mind that discussions are not presentations. Can you rephrase your proposal to make it a discussion? Thanks, --*Gnom (talk) 14:07, 16 April 2016 (UTC)
- Seems too much like a presentation, and I don't see how this could be rephrased towards a discussion topic. I would propose to leave it out of the discussion schedule. Effeietsanders (talk) 21:00, 19 April 2016 (UTC)
- This is not a presentation. On the contrary, the main goal is to interact with both experienced and non-experienced users and let them share their opinions and their feelings about cross-wiki translation. This is user-oriented and I am sure that a discussion of this kind can help others to improve their translation skills on Wikipedia. We often see many errors there. Translation is a key point. We do translate all the time. This is often a controversial issue on Wikipedia and it makes no harm to the project or event to openly discuss about this. This is my opinion. --Góngora (talk) 09:34, 29 April 2016 (UTC)
- @Góngora: In the current shape, it wouldn't fit, I think. But we could add a more general discussion about crosswiki translations, if we can find the right focus. It is community oriented, so that is a plus. We would have to move away from the specific languages you mention, and the NTNU project as well, I think. The purpose would be to gather best practices in translating articles across wiki's and identifying different approaches. Effeietsanders (talk) 14:15, 8 May 2016 (UTC)
- @Effeietsanders: Thanks. I changed a few things, following your suggestion. I think that this new approach can fit the goals of the discussion and, at the same time, it will provide me with useful material. --Góngora (talk) 00:25, 13 May 2016 (UTC)
- Hi @Góngora: congratulations! This proposal, renamed "Intertranswiki: different approaches towards translating content across Wikipedias" has been accepted by the Discussion Committee and will be included in the Discussion Room program. It is tentatively scheduled for Saturday afternoon, 25 June 2016, but that is subject to change. Please confirm you'll be attending Wikimania, and let me know if you have any questions or if there's anything our team can do to assist you with preparations for this discussion. I look forward to meeting you at Wikimania; safe travels! --Rosiestep (talk) 02:53, 26 May 2016 (UTC)
- @Rosiestep: Thank you! I have already confirmed my attendance to Wikimania. See you in Esino Lario! --Góngora (talk) 13:18, 27 May 2016 (UTC)
- Hi @Góngora: congratulations! This proposal, renamed "Intertranswiki: different approaches towards translating content across Wikipedias" has been accepted by the Discussion Committee and will be included in the Discussion Room program. It is tentatively scheduled for Saturday afternoon, 25 June 2016, but that is subject to change. Please confirm you'll be attending Wikimania, and let me know if you have any questions or if there's anything our team can do to assist you with preparations for this discussion. I look forward to meeting you at Wikimania; safe travels! --Rosiestep (talk) 02:53, 26 May 2016 (UTC)
- @Effeietsanders: Thanks. I changed a few things, following your suggestion. I think that this new approach can fit the goals of the discussion and, at the same time, it will provide me with useful material. --Góngora (talk) 00:25, 13 May 2016 (UTC)
- @Góngora: In the current shape, it wouldn't fit, I think. But we could add a more general discussion about crosswiki translations, if we can find the right focus. It is community oriented, so that is a plus. We would have to move away from the specific languages you mention, and the NTNU project as well, I think. The purpose would be to gather best practices in translating articles across wiki's and identifying different approaches. Effeietsanders (talk) 14:15, 8 May 2016 (UTC)